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In this Interview, Step DISCUSSES
the energy Matrix of the human body.
the communication network of your tensegrity system
What is your Bio-Field?
Why you are a semiconductor?
Why is living in a city not good for your health?
Why and how EMFR may shift your bio-field?
Whats the absolute best time to Ground?
How does Step get 7.83HZ during a plane flight?
What other books or Movies are good to learn about energy medicine?
Why Step has never had a FaceBook page and why he stays away from Social Media (so you get him exclusively here!)
Yasmeen Turayhi: Hi. My name is Yasmeen Turayhi, and this is Gateways to Awakening, where we host one-on-one conversations with leading experts in wellness and spirituality as part of a Hakawati production. Today's episode is about Grounding. We'll dive into what it is and how it can help you reduce inflammation and help you heal. On today's episode, we'll be featuring our guest Step Sinatra, co-founder of Grounded.com. Step Sinatra's miraculous healing story was featured in the documentary Heal for Free. A near-death experience followed by a 40-day hospital stay changed the course of his life forever.
Yasmeen Turayhi: In the early 2000s, he was a successful Wall Street trader that traded his health for money. Spending millions of dollars in traveling the globe for answers led to one simple discovery: that the most powerful therapy is right beneath our feet, and it's free. Step is now a writer, speaker, teacher in the realm of natural healing, spiritual awakening, and prosperity consciousness. While he has had many other ventures, now his main focus is Grounded.com, which he co-founded with his father, Dr. Stephen Sinatra in 2009. It is now one of the world's leading Earthing and Grounding websites. Step also currently lives between Germany and the Island of Hydra in Greece. His goal is to spend as much time Grounded as possible and to discover the language of creation. So welcome Step. We're so excited to have you on the show today.
Step Sinatra: Great to be here. Thank you Yasmeen.
Yasmeen Turayhi: And I think for our guests who may not be familiar with Grounding, I think we should just dive right in and explain what exactly is Grounding.
Step Sinatra: Well, that's kind of the million dollar question, isn't it? But the best part about that is the answer is it's free. And first I'll give you a little perspective and then I'll actually tell you what it does for your body. But I want you to think about... A good reference is The Matrix movies, where there's Neo, and at one point Switch calls him a copper-top. And what she's referring to is he's a Duracell battery. So in a way, 20 years ago, this movie was made and here we are, we are actual batteries. The human body is like that. It's electric. I mean, first you're a spiritual being, then you're a human being, but you're also an electrical being. And what I mean by this is, so Dr. Bruce Lipton will say, "Hey. The average membrane potential for a cell is 70 millivolts, 0.07 volts. And there's 50 trillion cells in your body, therefore your 3.5 trillion volts." Now that's pretty wild.
Step Sinatra: Now that's just a theory, but it gets put it in this perspective that the high capacity of energy in our body is absolutely amazing. So we're really like a bioelectrical being that's connected to an electrical planet. The Earth is the big battery and you are a smaller battery. So does that kind of give a little perspective?
Yasmeen Turayhi: Yeah. That gives perspective. Also, I'd love for you to define exactly what Grounding is from the perspective of “how do you do it?” What does it mean? We can maybe take the approach of total beginner's mind here for people that have never heard about the concept of Grounding before or Earthing.
Step Sinatra: Well, I'm doing it right now actually. So I'm sitting outside, and yes I'm in Greece and you can hear the waves in the background possibly, but my feet are connected to stone. And stone is conductive to the Earth. Pretty much most natural material, (our page with this) except for asphalt or anything that's plastic will not connect you to the Earth. But right now, since my feet are barefoot, I'm connected to the Earth. And there's two things actually going on here. One you're absorbing the negative electrons, as I went into in the battery. So as a battery, you need electrons. And these days we are really electrically starved, and I can get into that later down in the show.
Step Sinatra: But we need to constantly replenish this energy system, and the biggest source is the Earth. So I always say, if there was a user manual for the human body, I'm absolutely positive it would say, "Must connect to power source, the Earth, at frequent intervals." And all the past cultures that have maybe come before us, especially the American Indians, they just knew this was a given. The Mayans, et cetera, they went barefoot. They were connected. And that's what I mean. So Grounding….The simple definition is connecting the human body or skin directly to the Earth.
Yasmeen Turayhi: Thank you Step. That was a great explanation. I think for many people who maybe live in an apartment like I do in San Francisco or might not have access to the outdoors, let's say it's winter, what can they do? And I have so many questions about Grounding. Is it created equal if you just put your feet on the Earth or the sand or do you have to put your whole body on the Earth? What are some ways that people can access this especially if they don't live in close proximity to nature?
Step Sinatra: Sure. I mean, there's many ways to do it. Right? And I mean number one thing, like I said, is barefoot. But if you literally touch... This is absolutely fascinating and it blew me away. When you take your fingertip and you just touch a leaf on a tree, instantaneously you're Grounded. And in that millisecond, you actually start to receive the healing benefits of the Earth. So you don't have to have much, you just need a little bit of skin contact and usually moisture. That's kind of the best recipe. And then if you're hydrated and if you have more minerals in your body, that's always great. That's why the sea... It's why I actually chose to live here recently is because I want to be in salt water as much as I can. It's the number one place to be Grounded and Earthed.
Step Sinatra: And the reason is because it's salt water and it's extremely conductive and so is your body, your body is water. So in a way you're harmonizing right there. I love to say this. I used to surf in California a little bit, I'm not that great, but I did it because I knew it was the best thing for my body. Why? I'm getting sunlight, vitamin D pretty much all day long, I'm doing short burst activity, boosting my endocrine system, I'm connected to the Earth, I'm constantly getting these negative ions from the ocean, and when the sea actually has a wave, the more forceful it is, it kind of gives off this charge in the air. Do you know what I'm talking about? Have you ever smelled that in the morning if you go out and you're walking in let's say Half Moon Bay or one of these beaches, in Southern Cal and you kind of get that smell?
Yasmeen Turayhi: Yes. Yeah. Doesn't it produce if you're by a waterfall, it produces these negative ions-
Step Sinatra: Yes.
Yasmeen Turayhi: …as well that make you I guess happier. Right?
Step Sinatra: Totally. Absolutely. Our brain, our bodies, we crave this. And when you're in that state, like you're in the forest and you're in a waterfall... I do this too when I'm in Germany. Almost every other day, I'll go to this place because I'm getting it into my system. So when you get the negative ions from the forest, the air, even the Japanese call it Shinrin-Yoku. They actually prescribe that in Japan, the doctors do, to go out and do this. And you're getting this from all these other places in nature. Right? So let me circle back and actually answer your question, because if you're in an apartment building... And I used to live on the 44th floor in an apartment in Manhattan, so I totally get this. And I didn't know this at the time. This is back in the early 2000s when I was on Wall Street and [didn’t realize] how disconnected from the Earth I was.
Step Sinatra: And I believe that was partially the biggest cause of what I went through physically for a 10-year period. So when you're in a building like this, you're not getting the Schumann effect. And that's number two. So number one is you're getting negative ions from the Earth, and then number two is you're getting the Schumann effect. And what I mean by this is, there was doctors... He [Winfried Otto Schumann] was a doctor and in the '50s, he came out and gave this Schumann resonance theory, named it after himself. And he would say that the earth oscillates, it pretty much vibrates at 7.83 Hertz. And so it's only been 70 years that we've known about this frequency and there's kind of octaves of it and so forth and it goes within a tight range. Now, if you know anything about the brain, you know that that's kind of the alpha state, just on the borderline.
Step Sinatra: And when you smile and you just literally move your mouth up, you actually go into a 10 Hertz frequency. I actually had this done many years ago. I had it hooked up to my brain and it was fascinating. And this was before I knew. So just by smiling, you're very close to the earth's frequency. [Read Study: When you smile, the world smiles at you: ERP evidence for self-expression effects on face processing by Alejandra Sel, Beatriz Calvo-Merino, Simone Tuettenberg, and Bettina Forster.] And these low frequencies between 10 and 40 Hertz and even a little bit below that as you drop in especially when you sleep, you go into theta, et cetera, and we're really learning a lot about frequency and energy medicine. So it always brings me back to [Nikola] Tesla. And he says, "If you want to know the secrets of the universe, you must think in terms of frequency, energy, and vibration." So, that's Earthing. This is energy medicine at its most simplest form.
Yasmeen Turayhi: Step, how did you discover this philosophy? I'm so curious. Can you maybe walk us through your journey about your 10 years. I know that you co-founded Grounded.com with your father. So can you tell us the-
Step Sinatra: You want the big story or the short story?
Yasmeen Turayhi: I mean, let's see. I think-
Step Sinatra: Or I'll mix it.
Yasmeen Turayhi: Maybe you can mix it. Yeah. I mean, I think it's important to set the right context so that we understand how you guys discovered this. I actually read the book and I think for those folks who are very interested in this topic, you should check out. I think it's called Earthing. [Earthing: The Greatest Health Discovery Ever?! by Clint Ober, Dr. Stephen Sinatra and Martin Zucker.]
Step Sinatra: Right. So Earthing [book] was written by my father, Dr. Stephen Sinatra, greatest guy in the world and Clint Ober. Now, Clint Ober, I'll tell you his story real quick, because we wouldn't be having this discussion if it wasn't for Clint. He has pioneered this movement over the past 20 years. And I give him so much credit because he's really fought the system, he's run the studies, he's done so much. So, I'll tell you real quick about Clint so you get a perspective. So he was this cable executive, and he knew everything about grounding electronics. he kind of had a little illness or a little wake-up call, and he gave away all his money, millions of dollars, all his possessions and then he got an RV and he's searching for the meaning of life.
Step Sinatra: So he goes around and he's in Sedona, and all of a sudden he notices that there's all these people wearing sneakers, white sneakers. And he says, "Huh. Wait a second. These people are disconnected from the Earth because they're wearing rubber on their feet." And in the cable industry, if you use rubber, obviously it would prevent electric shock or it could help to ground. They don't really use it that... But he knew this. So Clint asked a simple question. He goes, "Wait a second. Should we be grounding a human being?" Good question. Right?
Yasmeen Turayhi: Mm-hmm (affirmative).
Step Sinatra: So what he does is he gets all inspired and he goes and he makes this prototype bed mat with copper wires and tape. He then lays down on it with a voltmeter and to see if he's grounded and he knows he's grounded. But before he knows what's happening, the birds are chirping, the sun shining and all of a sudden, bam, it's morning. The guy had fallen asleep and had the best night's sleep in his life. Plus he wakes up and he has no more back pain. So boom. Here comes the mission. And you can see how a man can get inspired like that. And that's kind of the story how it happened to him.
Step Sinatra: Now, what happens is, he goes out, he's trying to speak to doctors and scientists, everybody can go to all the universities and nobody wants to hear what he has to say. They say, "No. You're talking gibberish. You're not making any sense." And he gets to meet my father one day at a conference. He hears my father lecturing and my dad's talking about the electrical aspect of the heart and so forth. So they meet afterwards and go figure... Both these guys are wearing cowboy boots. They're both kind of cowboys. And it was just really interesting. And [if] you're wearing [leather soled] cowboy boots, you're actually Grounded because it's not a rubber material. It's actually conductive.
Step Sinatra: So Clint meets my father and my father is the first guy doctor that gets it immediately. He says, "Wow. This makes total sense because I'm a heart doctor and I know that the body has an electrical field." The heart has a field that actually goes out from six to eight, even 12 feet, depending upon your vibration. And he knew that there was this free radical theory of aging, which I talked about with the ions. So these guys hit it off and they team up. And basically my dad what he brings to the table was the science and the aspect that Grounding reduces inflammation. And if there's one huge takeaway from this entire piece, it's that, that Grounding reduces inflammation [Read Study: The effects of grounding (earthing) on inflammation, the immune response, wound healing, and prevention and treatment of chronic inflammatory and autoimmune diseases by James L Oschman, Gaétan Chevalier, and Richard Brown.]
Step Sinatra: And now there's over 20 peer reviewed studies around Grounding and Earthing, and a few of these depict just that. So there is a theory out there if you believe or not that most chronic illness we’re suffering from in the USA is because of we're inflamed. We're just drastically inflamed. And that leads to pain, that leads to bad sleep, I believe it leads to massive cortisol problems. So when you connect with the Earth, you put the fire out. And the fire is inflammation. So as soon as you put the fire out, you're going to recharge.
Yasmeen Turayhi: Yeah. And Step, so I want to also just be really clear so that the audience can kind of go and Ground themselves. So, how long does it take to... You said that even for just a couple seconds or a minute by touching a plant can make you Grounded. What's sort of the average length of time that you need in order to actually get Grounded?
Step Sinatra: All right. So it is milliseconds that the intelligence of your body automatically connects with the intelligence of the Earth. It's a beautiful thing.
Yasmeen Turayhi: Got it.
Step Sinatra: By the way, I should say that the Earth is that battery, that the surface of the Earth has all these negative ions and up in the ionosphere, way, way up is the positive charge. And what goes on is that there's thunderstorms and the whole weather patterns that actually charges this battery, the Earth, and it's really done by the sun. And then when we touch it, we get it. So ideally the best time, how much time, it's really how much time do you have? And the more, the better. And the studies that we've done, or some of them out there really show you get incredible benefits within 15 minutes, but really the magic starts to happen between 45 minutes and two hours.
Yasmeen Turayhi: 45 minutes to two hours. Okay.
Step Sinatra: Yeah. But even if... Okay. Say I'm driving down the road and I've been in a long car ride... This happens all the time. Every time I get off at a rest stop, I literally take my hand, I hold a leaf or I put it on the ground for even 30 seconds and I just discharge any of that static buildup that I just got from driving down the freeway, in a car, from soaking up cell phone towers, being on the phone, et cetera. You can immediately just start to discharge this within seconds.
Yasmeen Turayhi: Wow. Honestly Step I want to go hug my plant right now. That sounds-
Step Sinatra: Yes. Well, is your plant in your apartment?
Yasmeen Turayhi: Yeah. It's not connected to the Earth. So I guess it doesn't count. Right?
Step Sinatra: Well, you can connect it to the Earth. So what you can do is... And you can do this to the human body too. You can literally take this... And this is kind of what our company does and a few other companies do. We distribute and sell these products where if you're unable... kind of answering your other question, to connect to the Earth because it's winter time or you're in that 44th floor, you can plug something into the ground socket. It does not touch the electrical piece, it connects with the ground and then that will actually go to a pad that's made of carbon or silver. And as soon as you touch that carbon or silver, instantly, you're Grounded through pretty much the building, because every building, every home, everything has a ground system in place to discharge let's say the lightning or the other energy.
Step Sinatra: So it all kind of makes sense, if that helps with the big picture. Now you can ground your plant. [As shown in “The Grounded” documentary film by Steve Kroschel. Watch now.] I do this in my apartments. I actually have... Yeah. I have it plugged in or the best case scenario, what I actually like to do is throw a rod, literally a Grounding rod that's about a foot and a half long, and you put it into the Earth and then you run a cord all the way through your window or whatever, and then you put it into the plant and you can connect to yourself. And that's how it began for me actually. That's how the first time I got Grounded and was sold more than anything in my life. And that was back in 2008. So I did exactly that.
Yasmeen Turayhi: Wow. So I'd like to also dive into some interesting stories about people that have healed with this approach. I'm curious, I'm sure you guys have documented studies of people that have reduced inflammation. I'm sure that there's a spectrum of stories. But I'm curious, are there any one or two stories that stick out about people that heard about Grounding, decided to Ground every day or get the Grounding equipment that they needed to Ground? What's been your experience?
Step Sinatra: So really the reason why I'm so passionate about this, and I still do this every day is because of what people tell us. It's that simple. I mean, we love hearing the testimonials and people saying, "Oh my God. I've never slept so good." Or "My pain just kind of went away. This changed my life. I got my life back." That's Clint's line, "I got my life back.” That's in the movie actually, the Earthing Movie. And it's true. We just keep getting this. I mean, everything from sleep apnea is even a big one. It improves all sorts of pain, people with RA [Rheumatoid Arthritis]. My mother, I sent her a mat recently. She didn't have one, I sent it to her so she could get better. And she loves it. She's like, "I don't know. I'm waking up and I am feeling just so refreshed."
Step Sinatra: And that was my experience. So I'll tell you my story about it. And this was in, like I said, 2008. I went through a 40-day stay in the hospital, et cetera. I was in rough shape. I mean, I couldn't even believe they let me out of the hospital. It was either I would die or they let me out. So they let me out and I'm trying to get better, I'm having some relapses and I say, "Wow. I don't want to go back into the hospital." So my dad [Dr. Stephen Sinatra], just getting involved with this at the time, he sends me a [now discontinued] recovery bag. So picture a little sleeping bag made out of silver. It's pretty funny. It's what the guys in the tour to France were using at the time. They were demoing this technology. Clint had introduced them to it and they loved it and they didn't want to tell anybody about it.
Step Sinatra: My dad sends this to me and I before that I couldn't sleep more than 45 minutes. I mean, I had edema in my legs, I had neuropathy, I had such pain, it was brutal. And I never knew if I'd walk again. So the first night that I hooked this thing up, I remember I put the cord outside, I plugged it in the earth, I was totally skeptical, I'm like, "This isn't going to do anything. Whatever." Boom. I laid down, almost six hours of sleep and I was floored.
Step Sinatra: I mean, I felt better, and I immediately started to recover. That day I'll never forget. It was the biggest aha. And I said, “This is going to change my life." And it did. So that’s my story, but we hear a lot of them that are similar, not as drastic as what I went through though of course.
Yasmeen Turayhi: Wow. Step, is there any experience where people shouldn't use a Grounding methodology? I've heard stories of things like dirty electricity. I actually don't know much about the subject, but I'm just curious, is there any experience where if people don't have necessarily access to the Earth, are there any experiences that you wouldn't use this?
Step Sinatra: I think the number one time you don't want to use it is if you're in a hurricane or a really bad lightning storm. Because there may be some really buildup of charge. And there was one instance with one woman. Gaétan Chevalier, who's one of the lead scientists and researchers on this, he talks about this in some of his podcasts if you ever Google him. But there was one situation where she had it, but she was actually using the cord outside and plugging it into the wall, so she was connected to two pieces at the same time and she just had a little bit of a shock.
Step Sinatra: So ever since then we say, "Hey. Just avoid it if it's in this situation.” So I'd say that's the only time really to [not] do it. Now, the best time to Ground would actually be right after that thunderstorm because that's when the Earth is just plugged with negative ions and the Earth is usually wet and when it's wet, it's conducted much better. And I'd love to make a note for people is if you've had chronic illness or you've been through a lot of health challenges like I was, I know what it's like to be really sick and have no hormones and do not sweat. And if you don't perspire and you don't have even moisture on your skin, you're really dry, you won't conduct as well. So having some sort of moisture... Is really important. And that's why water is your best conductor.
Yasmeen Turayhi: Super interesting. Okay. Wow. Step, what sort of things have surprised you while taking Grounded to the public? Do you still get surprised actually or are you just kind of in awe of all the stories that you've heard of people that have healed?
Step Sinatra: It's a mixture of both. And that's why I just love it because I think what I'm really getting into now is how we are this BioField. And the world is really waking up to that we have our own pure bio-field and it's this energy aspect. And I call it in my Avatar Awareness training that it's the way to harness this energy and this language of the universe. So if you want, I can go down that path which is really where I get inspired. And it's because the Earth has an energy and a frequency, and all of that really is light and information. And at the grand scheme of it all, we live in some sort of information field. And physics is constantly trying to prove this and guys on the circuit like Joe Dispenza who I really think is great talks all about this. I love it.
Step Sinatra: Because that's actually what helped me heal [See Step’s journey in “Heal For Free,” now streaming on Gaia. Watch now] too, was connecting with the field of energy, the universal field, Einstein mentioned this, and harnessing that energy and utilizing it. So who's our biggest teacher? It's the Earth. And look at what it does with nature. And if you just look at nature... And that's what I do now so much more, I'm so involved in nature because I see the magic of Earthing and Grounding in pure effect. When I wake up and I go out to the beach and I throw on some goggles and I watch these fish swim with the morning light coming through, and you can see the harmony, the balance and how nature has this just beautiful system of organization. There is no chaos. Man, we've made it chaos in a way. We're the ones.
Step Sinatra: But we were programmed with a belief of, "Oh. It's man versus nature." No. That's not true. Those were some of the early myths in a way, but it's really man in harmony with nature and how is it man can synchronize with this vibration. And if we do, well then we raise our vibration, we heal our bodies and we get those divine downloads that we're really looking for. That's the magic and the mystical aspect of life.
Yasmeen Turayhi: Beautiful. I want to dive into not just the physical because now you're talking more about the spiritual and emotional aspect of healing with Grounding. So I'm curious if you could talk a little bit more about some of the emotional aspects that you've seen from other people by using Grounding. Have they cultivated more presence? Have they been able to reduce their stress? And how do you measure that? I think I'm curious about how we can show folks who are maybe very skeptical or who are just very scientifically-minded and just want to see the data. Right? I'm just curious, what sort of stats or stories can you share about the emotional piece of Grounding and how it's really helped your life beyond just the physical. But right now we can maybe agree that the physical is evident. But yeah. I'm curious about the emotional and the spiritual.
Step Sinatra: Okay. So emotionally, it's pure and simple. I mean, that's why I love the name of my company, Grounded.com. Because you're Grounded. I mean, it's synonymous with meditating and connecting to the Earth as if you're feeling those classic roots coming out of your feet and going deep into the Earth. And when you're emotionally Grounded, you're centered, you're calm, you're present, you're poised, you are ready for life and you are actually more in the now. And when you're in the NOW, well, that's that flow state, that's where you're really channeling your divine higher self.
Step Sinatra: So also that aspect of being Grounded, I mean, think about it in terms of the Chakras. That's your first Chakra, your second Chakra and your third. Those lower Chakras. And those will really harmonize, the more you're connected to this vibration, this pulsation because of the energetics surrounding them. So what do people feel? They feel calmer. They feel like life got a little bit easier. And of course there's a biochemical reaction to this.
Step Sinatra: It's dropped your cortisol. We've been shown in studies that it pulls cortisol down [Read Study: The biologic effects of grounding the human body during sleep as measured by cortisol levels and subjective reporting of sleep, pain, and stress by Maurice Ghaly, Dale Teplitz]. And what is cortisol? Well it's connected to your body's stress response. It helps control blood sugar levels, regulate your metabolism, helps reduce inflammation and assist with your memory. So all of these things bring you into a nervous system harmonization. And it's getting into that parasympathetic state. Because we know what modern life is like. We're just, boom, boom, boom, going in a sympathetic drive state. And this is probably one of the hardest things that I had dealt with for 10 years coming off of Wall Street, was that my nervous system was completely trashed.
Step Sinatra: And trying to get it back online, because the adrenals were damaged even part of the brain gets a little bit weak from it, and just the excess of hormones ripping through your system. So I needed to rebalance and I needed to come back to that state. So there's this inherent essence that people just love to say like, "Wow. My life is just so much better. I don't know what it is." Well, if you've started meditating too, that also can awaken and kind of get you Grounded. And people say the same thing about meditation. So maybe you don't meditate, well go for a walk on the beach without your cell phone, turn it off, that's your meditation of the day. Or there's so many other things you can do to kind of get into that emotional state. You want me to talk more about the science?
Yasmeen Turayhi: Yeah. I'm curious actually. If you have the science, it'd be great to go into that. But yeah. Thank you for the response on the emotional piece. Yeah. Let's talk about the science, if you have it, and then I'd love to also talk more about EMFs.
Step Sinatra: Okay. Sure. So in terms of science, like I said, there's roughly around 20-some odd peer reviewed literature studies. And most of them talk about pain, inflammation, and there's even one recent that came out about preemies, premature babies, and how that affects the vagus nerve. [Read Study: Electrical Grounding Improves Vagal Tone in Preterm Infants by Rohit Passi, Kim K Doheny, Yuri Gordin, Hans Hinssen, Charles Palmer]. So, that kind of goes back to the question upon what do people feel. Well, when you are able to influence vagal tone, which is basically the marker of your nervous system. Your vagus nerve kind of runs all the way from the top of your head sort of and then comes down and around. It's this beautiful thing, if you ever look at it in an anatomy book. And it goes through your gut, your system, which is really your second brain. And when this is regulated, when this is balanced and just calm, your entire body heals itself. That's what I really learned in my journey.
Yasmeen Turayhi: Wow.
Step Sinatra: Because I wasn't allowing my body to heal itself, I was in a constant state of sympathetic drive. And the body, when it thinks it's running from the tiger, it's not going to heal. It's shutting down blood flow, it's doing everything to survive. So in order to bring yourself back into that parasympathetic state where the body can heal, you need the Earth, or you need those frequencies, you need those low Hertz frequencies. And what we're getting these days is these bombardment of high frequency waves, EMFs. And it's the biggest soup unimaginable. And it's just exponential.
Step Sinatra: So I started researching EMFs pretty heavy back in 2009, '10, ’11, buying all sorts of meters, I was figuring it out…coming from cell phones, cordless phones. And I started to rip all of these things out of my house. I got better. I improved. My health felt great. I started to elevate myself. I'm like, "Wow. There's something to this." And even the electricity in your house, you can actually shut the power down if you want to go that far, which I do sometimes because I want to get right back to nothing charging in my field.
Step Sinatra: So right now even we're dealing with the whole 5G thing. Well, what's 5G? It's super high frequency waves. And we're talking mega gigahertz. Now wifi is 2.4 gigahertz or five. Anything above 1.8 really is not harmonious to the body. And I got to be careful how I phrase this and I never wanted to take the EMF situation on. HealforFree was actually a movie that was pitched to me to be about EMFs, because I knew so much at that time way back then. And I said, "I don't know right now. I think I'd rather stick with the story upon the Earth. That's the solution." And if you're Grounded, you can dissipate these EMFs, especially if you live in an urban environment.
Yasmeen Turayhi: Beautiful. Yeah. I know that there's a lot of conversation around EMFs, what they are. I think maybe you can even describe EMFs because it's something that I think some people are familiar with, but I think from a global perspective, maybe not everyone is familiar with it. And I think in the West obviously, we would probably use a lot more technology, got a lot more things plugged in. So yeah. I do actually like to turn off my power as well because just for whatever reason it helps me sleep better.
Step Sinatra: No. Because you're not getting any of those frequencies. Even you shut down your refrigerator. Right? There is some static in the walls, depending upon what the cords are shielded with these days. And when you just take all that noise we... See, we can't see it, we can't smell it, we can't taste it, so we kind of think it's not there. False. I have been to over 200 and probably 300 hotels that I've tested with my meters, because I travel a lot, it's my other passion life, and I will disconnect wifi routers, I'll pull TV cables out, I'll get that to the lowest possible level and I'll sleep great. When I forget my meter, I'm just not thinking about it, and I wake up in the middle of the night, I'm like, "Okay. There it is.”
Step Sinatra: I pull the meter out and the next day and I'm like, "No wonder. The wifi router was right by my head." So there's frequencies going off. I mean, you see the cell phone towers everywhere now. And those towers are pulsating frequencies constantly. They're just pumping them out, pumping them out. And like I said, you're a bio-field. So as a whole, you're walking in, if you can see yourself as an energy matrix, which is really what you are, and you're actually a semiconductor because there's this collagen matrix within your body, we call it the tensegrity system. And I love that phrase.
Yasmeen Turayhi: Okay. What does that mean? Can you talk about what that means?
Step Sinatra: Okay. It's fascinating. So if you're going to make a building, you're going to build it from the foundation deep in the Earth. You're going to have these structures and how they intertwine and how they support the weight of the structures way at the top. I mean, it's fascinating. They have the super high buildings that exist in New York City and elsewhere. And you look and you're like, "How does that do it?" Well, there's a system to it to make the weight hold. And the body has this too. It's the tensegrity matrix system where all the collagen and the muscles and the ligaments and the fibers and the fascia, they all kind of intertwine over these bones to hold this into place, this miraculous machine.
Step Sinatra: And it has a communication network. This is what I'm talking about. So just as soon as you put your foot on the Ground and you sense the electrons and the Schumann frequency, well, that's just ripping from the bottom of your foot to your head instantaneously through your nerve tissue or other tissues, your fascia. And that's this matrix system. So you're energy and you're conducting energy as a superconductor. This is not a total proven theory, but this has been written up in a few journals (Read Study: The effects of grounding (earthing) on inflammation, the immune response, wound healing, and prevention and treatment of chronic inflammatory and autoimmune diseases by James L. Oschman, Gaetan Chevalier and Richard Brown) and I believe this just from what I know about Grounding now.
Step Sinatra: So when you're in the presence of EMFs, especially urban environments, this why I will not live in any cities... I just moved out of cities. I used to live in Manhattan for many years, other places I just will not live because I know too much now about EMF, and I want the frequencies of nature coming at me. Even when you're waiting in line for your coffee in San Francisco, and there's 10 people in front of you, everybody's sitting there on their cell phone, well, you're getting soaked from every single person's cell phone. I've tested all of them. They all go out, especially smartphones. The more the merrier. They'll go out between one and 20 feet. Isn't that interesting?
Yasmeen Turayhi: Wow.
Step Sinatra: So where's the worst place you're going to get hit with EMFs? Why do you feel so bad? On an airplane. You're getting absolutely bombarded and then you're getting all the electronics in the whole air. That's why one of the second best times to earth (Top 10) is after you've been on a plane flight because you have massive static electricity that's built up into you, and if you're doing the time zone change, you can actually harmonize and pretty much have no jet lag.
Yasmeen Turayhi: Wow. That's a good trick for flights. Good to know.
Step Sinatra: It is. Yep. It's the best. And just a side note and people may think this is kind of funny or interesting, but I will travel with a machine that I put on my palms of my both hands as I let... It's like a little battery of the Earth. It's like a small miniature Earth battery that gives me 7.83 Hertz* the entire flight. And I feel great because I'm not getting all these other frequencies, I'm actually harmonizing myself. Now, I'm not discharging out of the body, but at least I'm maintaining the right vibration that my body was designed as a human being to have.
[*Product linked is not the exact one Step owns, which is not currently available for public purchase, but is another device you can try which is purported to achieve a similar effect!]
Yasmeen Turayhi: Well, honestly, I think I really want to just go outside and sit on the Earth all day today after this conversation. I'm sure a lot of other people feel the same because I certainly don't spend enough time on the Earth or touching the Earth. I think one thing I remember when I read your book Earthing was that the humans are the only species on the planet that does not sleep on the Earth. And that really stayed with me, that what are we missing now that we've built these walls, these concrete castles and jungles for ourselves so that we're so disassociated from nature and the Earth. So yeah. So I'm just fascinated by this topic. I think a lot of people are probably going to be very curious and want to read the book Earthing and learn more about this philosophy. And honestly, for any of the skeptics out there, that's fine too. I think it's free, so it doesn't hurt to try it. And I think-
Step Sinatra: Exactly.
Yasmeen Turayhi: ... one thing I also remember from the book was that people who go on vacation and sit on the beach, usually when they have beach vacations, people who have had chronic insomnia say that they sleep really well on vacation. And maybe the question is, does that have to do with all the time that you're now spending on the Earth versus the time that you're not connected to the earth when you're not on vacation. So yeah. So just some things to think about and consider. This is really a... Gateways to Awakening is a conversation for people to really think differently and to just have an open mind, a beginner's mind with these topics. So Step, can you tell us, are there any books or resources... Obviously Earthing is the book that we've been talking about in this conversation. But are there any other books or resources that you recommend our audience to read or to check out?
Step Sinatra: Of course. I mean the number one is we mentioned Earthing [The Greatest Health Discovery Ever?!]. And I say the number two that I like is Richard Gerber, Vibrational Medicine. Also, Beckers book and it's The Body Electric. My father was reading this many years ago, written by Richard Gerber. And it came out I believe in the '70s, but it is wonderful in terms of getting into the energetics and the bio-field we talk about. So in terms of books, I'd say there's those two. Now there's three movies out now that teach all about this. The first one is called The Grounded, the second one was the sequel to that was kind of the Heal For Free, which is what I was involved in. And then the latest one that's really sparked this big movement is The Grounding Movie.
Yasmeen Turayhi: Oh. Wow.
Step Sinatra: Deepak Chopra's in there, my father's in there, my brother [Dr. Drew Sinatra] is in there talking about Earthing, Clint's in there, a couple of other experts, Jim [James] Oschman, Gaétan Chevalier. And that's one of the best ones. If they're going to do anything, I would say start with the movies, check out the books, and then of course if you want to Google some YouTubes or the websites are earthing.net or ours is Grounded.com. There's a plethora of information.
Yasmeen Turayhi: Great. And Step, can you maybe if there's a main takeaway that you want to tell our listeners about their health and wellness, what would it be? What would be the main takeaway for our listeners?
Step Sinatra: I love that question. I would say when we make the shift from living a life of inherent programming, conditioning, pressures upon us, to one of harmonizing with our divine self which I call nature, we're acting as more spirit than matter. And I believe we get to that state more spirit than matter, that's in a way a definition of heaven. And you then become the steward of your reality. You take ownership, you take responsibility. And it's an interesting kind of an awakening that happens. But if I had to say something else, it makes me think of Joseph Campbell, who I really like. And he says, "When people say they're looking for the meaning of life, what really they're looking for is a deep experience of it.”
Step Sinatra: So I always say, if you want a deeper experience, just look to nature and surround with yourself as much as possible. Literally bathe yourself in the frequencies of the natural world, disconnect if you can from the news, the noise, all this modern world stuff, let the mathematics of the universe touch you, and I think you'll be pretty amazed.
Yasmeen Turayhi: Wow. Thank you Step. That was such a beautiful way to end this conversation. And I'm curious if there's any other resources that you can point folks to, to check you out. I know that beyond just Grounded.com, you also have Ageless.com. So maybe you could tell our listeners what that's about and how they can contact you if you're on Instagram or any other social media outlets.
Step Sinatra: Ageless.com is my new thing where, let's say you want to come and learn about Earthing and Grounding and you want to do it in an amazing European place, whether it's the thermal baths of Germany or in Italy, Scotland, I have a trip, Greece is my favorite, I have a few of these trips where I like to take people on, talk about Earthing, Grounding, the spiritual aspects that I mentioned mostly here as well. And that's what Ageless is. So it's kind of these wellness adventure trips. A lot of them got canceled for this year, so they'll be popping up next year. And those are really intimate by the way, those are between 8 and 15 people. I like to keep them tight. And Switzerland trips are amazing. I was just talking about that today with somebody. And then I'm not a big social media guy. I never have been, I never had a Facebook page in my entire life. I never wanted one.
Yasmeen Turayhi: Wow. Amazing.
Step Sinatra: Yeah. Really. Instagram I flirt with, it's called FreeSpirit Wine was for a wine company that I started. But other than that, I stay kind of behind the scenes, a little bit off the grid. And a lot of it is because I don't want to be on screens all day long. I want to be in nature. And the more I'm plugged in, the more I'm not grounded, the less good I feel. And if I don't feel that great, I'm not helping the world.
Yasmeen Turayhi: Amen Step. Thank you so much for your time. I'm so grateful that we've had this conversation, especially since you're on the Island of Hydra. And so for our audience, thank you for joining and for listening. In this episode, we learned about Grounding, we learned about what it is and how it can help reduce inflammation and help you heal. So you can tune in to Gateways to Awakening where we host one-on-one conversations with leading experts in wellness and spirituality. Thanks again.